http://snyderartdesign.com/amk-collaboration/ At the beginning of October 1967, John’s record becomes even more nightmarish. He reports some disturbing phone conversations with Helen Oglemyer (and her alien familiar Cloé) and Jaye Paro (and her aliens Agar and Appell). Whatever was really happening here, someone was apparently vomiting at Jaye’s house, and Jaye herself was becoming suicidal. I don’t know what she meant by “Green Glass.” Poor John, who simply wanted a story, has gotten far more than he bargained for. He headed this entry “Denouement,” but his record continues for several months more.
Two things–either there was an alien or somebody was ‘in on it’ with Jaye for JAK to hear someone vomiting in the background while she was on the phone, although being a radio pro, it’s possible she could have recorded herself vomiting and played it back. Unlikely, but possible. And again, the other contactee’s story about an alien waving her hands and the house instantly becoming clean seems lifted from Bewitched.
Comment by J.P. — May 22, 2018 @ 12:03 pm
I’m genuinely starting to think that Jaye was schizophrenic.Also I agree with J.P. that Jaye recorded herself vomiting.It was probably her throwing up those pills.
Comment by Joseph — May 26, 2018 @ 11:28 pm
The probability that Jaye was eventually committed to an institution or committed suicide increases by the letter.
Unfortunately.
Comment by 8th Street — May 27, 2018 @ 7:16 am
Can’t disagree at all with the previous two comments. I will say this, as the saga unspools through 1967, I’ve gone from being annoyed with Jaye to feeling sorry for her. Yeah, I also think she needed a psychologist much more than she needed a ufologist.
Comment by J.P. — May 28, 2018 @ 1:03 am
What bothers me is that John still used her stories as examples of supposed paranormal events in his books.Like did he ever find out if Jaye was just sick or did something happened later for him to continue to believe her?
Comment by Joseph — May 28, 2018 @ 9:31 am
That’s a valid point, Joseph. I don’t want to be too critical of JAK, because I enjoyed (and still do) his writing and his investigations, and I appreciate all the hard work Doug does in preserving and posting this material. But there is questionable stuff in Mothman Prophecies, including, of course, the Tom Monteleone hoax, which wasn’t admitted to by Monteleone until several years after the book was published, IIRC.
As has been mentioned, Jaye mostly became ‘Jane’ in Prophecies, although he sometime quoted her as Jaye Paro.
Comment by J.P. — May 28, 2018 @ 2:06 pm
I also don’t want to be critical of JAK but this is aggravating me.People over the years have complained that John was hypocritical when it came to criticizing others in the field for not being subjective.He especially criticized people who believed in the E.T. hypothesis but you can see based on these notes that John was no different.I think he wanted the UFO mystery to be more Fortian than it actually was and it’s plainly obvious in his books.
Comment by Joseph — May 28, 2018 @ 2:44 pm
There’s nothing wrong with being critical! John had his good points and bad points. To me, he seems smart and hard-working, but overly credulous. When I look over this story, I keep in mind that it’s his raw notes, that he was just starting to try to figure this out, that he had no training for it, and that it was only a few months. I don’t see any evidence of aliens, but a classic example of a descent into the shadowy world of intermixed paranormal, religious, and delusional. I feel sorry for both John and Jaye in this mess. He just wanted a story, and she needed help.
Comment by Doug — May 28, 2018 @ 9:48 pm
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